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More WotC layoffs

Malachi
It seems that every year at this time, Wizards lays off some people. This year is no exception.

I'm not going to publicly "out" any of the targets this year, they'll let the public know if they want to know. But you guys have my sympathies.

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brooklynknight
Dec. 3rd, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
They must really hate paying holiday bonuses.
dark_infidel
Dec. 3rd, 2008 02:17 am (UTC)
Would you warn people away from working for them or is the work worth the lack of job security?
seankreynolds
Dec. 3rd, 2008 02:28 am (UTC)
I have had no interest in going back to work for Wizards since I was laid off in 2003. I had no hard feelings about being laid off, but I have no interest in working on 4e, and they're stuck in a hire-layoff-repeat cycle that, to me, shows that they value employees less than their bean-counter budgets. I have friends who've been hired and laid off by Wizards two or even three times now. I wouldn't want to be nervous about my job every year around this time.

I've worked with really great people at Wizards. They're my friends. But the people crunching the numbers aren't pro-people, they're pro-numbers.
seankreynolds
Dec. 3rd, 2008 02:33 am (UTC)
That said, I'm sure they pay better than anyone else in the tabletop RPG industry.
And it's cool to work on official D&D (even if it is 4e).

And the same goes for freelance work for them. Though I hear they've had some issues with paying people on time (probably just your standard corporate shenanigans, but it's annoying when you KNOW they have the money and yet they're late in paying you).
dark_infidel
Dec. 3rd, 2008 02:37 am (UTC)
Would you be interested in contributing some thoughts to the community I'm running? Your insights into "the industry" and gaming in general would be more than welcome.
seankreynolds
Dec. 4th, 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
What community is this of which you speak?
dark_infidel
Dec. 4th, 2008 03:44 am (UTC)
*mock shock* Why havn't you heard?!

*chuckles* I am the owner/admin of ImberCorvus.com the mission statement should just about cover what I'm attempting.

You ah, weren't in the second Gamers film were you?
owen_stephens
Dec. 3rd, 2008 03:35 am (UTC)
Aye, there's the rub.

I've been giving a lot of thought to my interest in the game industry in general lately. I must admit, this is getting cycled into my current attitudes.

But I just can't see myself not at least freeancing now and then. I just enjoy the work and the people too much.

And yeah, my sympathies to anyone caught this time around.
friadoc
Dec. 3rd, 2008 05:12 am (UTC)
Oh, how I know this pain, from various parts of my contractor days, and boy does it suck, because if you get your druthers up, too much, then you are so screwed out of future work, even if you were in the right.

I think it takes a lot of guts for anyone to work freelance writing as their sole gig, since the potential for being at the mercy of the whims of fat can be pretty nasty. That said, I am jealous of those folk, big time, as the idea of writing for a living has always been right up there with being a Marine or a gaining superpowers, and thus far I have experienced one of those three and, for the record, I am not a masked vigilante with wondrous abilities beyond the reach of mortal men. ;)
casiel
Dec. 3rd, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC)
Oh, how I know this pain, from various parts of my contractor days, and boy does it suck...

Yep, it's hard to forgive & forget when someone tells you, "Merry Christmas! You're fired."

Very much suckage.
baby_goat
Dec. 3rd, 2008 03:31 pm (UTC)
So you're saying they're powergamers.
friadoc
Dec. 3rd, 2008 04:00 am (UTC)
I hate layoffs, although they are better than being fired, they have a different level of cold to them, more so when it is close to the holidays.

My two layoffs both came in the spring/summer period, with the first being April '05 from HP (huge contractor culling, as well as regular employee) and then May '07 from Micron (made more insulting by the tens of millions the CEO spent so he could race in Baja a few months previous), and it hurt, a lot, then and that is without it being a holiday season.

Best of wishes and sympathies to those folks and their families, I hope all goes well for them, soon and quickly.
frabjousdave
Dec. 3rd, 2008 04:21 am (UTC)
If I were still in the Seattle area, I'd arrange a stealth candlelight/cocktail vigil at the old mana pool. I think it falls to you now!
friadoc
Dec. 4th, 2008 01:56 am (UTC)
I retreat to here, to offer a tongue in cheek reply to the last bit of this - http://www.enworld.org/forum/4574516-post215.html

If I offer to supply you the know, Sean, as well as an alibi and a driver, would that be a criminal conspiracy punishable under the Patriot Act?

But, in all seriousness, I agree with what you said, pretty much all of it.
seankreynolds
Dec. 4th, 2008 03:06 am (UTC)
I think anything is punishable under the Patriot Act nowadays....
friadoc
Dec. 5th, 2008 05:30 pm (UTC)
You know something is bad when even a staunch Republican, as well as lavatory tap dance, like Larry Craig is against it, on points of ethics. While I wasn't usually proud of my representation, while living in Idaho, Craig did have his good moments, at times.
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